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I want to address the old controversy in the map community - the pro contact vs anti contact discourse. When (and where) I first joined, the line was pretty clear - you are anti contact if you oppose sexual relationships between adults and people below 16, and cp. Some people rose the age limit to 18, it was also the version of the norm. This is the definition I and a few other 2017 Tumblr discourse "survivors" use up to date. I was unaware that there were some problems with it, but several months ago I was introduced to the concept of people who for this or that reason do not identify as either. It seemed valid in terms of that sometimes you haven't yet formed an opinion and don't want to align yourself and get into drama too soon. But it brought other problems. Apparently some of the radicals of the anti c community made an attempt to claim the whole of the anti c label for themselves and brand everyone who didn't fit in as pro c. Their new definition included 18 as an unquestionable number, refusal to talk about any nsfw topics with minors, denial that a small portion of children does get out of relationships with adults unharmed, respect towards laws in any situation and several other quite far gone statements. A few people, anti cs at heart, were pushed to taking neutral or pro c label upon themselves. My close friend, formerly an anti c ideologue, became a label abolitionist. He believes that these labels do nothing but taint the community and turn them onto each other, and I do see some harmful impact, but I do believe it's essential to keep them. First of all, I'd like to know where my new acquaintances stand on consent and children, as I do not align with those who believe sexual contact with children is morally ok. My friend believes I could just ask everyone about their position individually, and this is a valid point, but here's something else to keep in mind. If we abandon this label, radicals will keep it. And they will take full use out of it. "Anti contact map" is already a broadcast identity. People come to those who ID like that and ask whether they really are against abuse, and are ready for a conversation. I don't want to leave these people onto someone who believes in reporting on minors who take nudes to FBI and thinks a 40 yo with a 20 yo is creepy. Plus they will use every opportunity to uplift themselves on expense of everyone they deem impure. If we let them have these labels because we are "too good" for them, in 10 years we'll see them together with the non map society shoving everyone else down. Like some cis gays and lesbians do with trans people. I want to push back till it's too late, I want to restore the old meaning of the words "anti contact". It's still possible.